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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28741511/


lmao, Wow. That is epic.
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I don't get it... Sad
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Snowzak wrote:
I don't get it... Sad

Mad What's not to get? He's challenging Al Gore and Global Warming by making an ICE STATUE and leaving it outside. And it hasn't melted. And yeah, it's in Alaska... but if giant ice chunks are melting from ANTARCTICA, surely this ice statue would have melted by now.
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ICE IS OVERPOWERED
NERF THE ICE
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lol slight misconception there. The ice in antarctica melts not from the sunlight or temperature but from the increased water temp. If its not touching the water its not really gonna melt. Its like if i put an ice cube 10 feet away from a boiling pool of water in the 27 degree weather we are having now and the ice cube doesnt melt that means global warming doesnt exist? it wouldnt make sence that way.
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asianboy10123 wrote:
lol slight misconception there. The ice in antarctica melts not from the sunlight or temperature but from the increased water temp. If its not touching the water its not really gonna melt. Its like if i put an ice cube 10 feet away from a boiling pool of water in the 27 degree weather we are having now and the ice cube doesnt melt that means global warming doesnt exist? it wouldnt make sence that way.

Except GLOBAL Warming is supposed to be global, and it's supposed to get warmer everywhere, not just in Antarctica.
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it is global glaciers everywhere are melting not only in antarctica water temperatures are steadily increasing across the world. Its so messed up now that polar bears and penguins have been found dead. Usualy not that surprising except for the fact that they drowned. which means ice is melting wayyyy to quickly.
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asianboy10123 wrote:
it is global glaciers everywhere are melting not only in antarctica water temperatures are steadily increasing across the world. Its so messed up now that polar bears and penguins have been found dead. Usualy not that surprising except for the fact that they drowned. which means ice is melting wayyyy to quickly.


http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=3061015&page=1


This does a good job of explaining how Global Warming is dramatized and overhyped. I'm not saying it doesn't exist.
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its not dramatized though. The timeframe is just misunderstood. concenquences will come from it just pretty far from now. Most of the people that worry about too much are caused by the media. I do agree on one part though. There are WAYY to many myths and strage worrys about global warming. Considering the fact that humans survived ice ages and stuff with only sticks we will definatley make it through watever comes next. The only quams i have about it is that i dun like the fact that we are altering the natural regulation of temperature.
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asianboy10123 wrote:
its not dramatized though. The timeframe is just misunderstood. concenquences will come from it just pretty far from now. Most of the people that worry about too much are caused by the media. I do agree on one part though. There are WAYY to many myths and strage worrys about global warming. Considering the fact that humans survived ice ages and stuff with only sticks we will definatley make it through watever comes next. The only quams i have about it is that i dun like the fact that we are altering the natural regulation of temperature.


How'd you go from "I've never said it wasn't exaggerated" to all that? Now you're just trying to start another debate. Razz

Point is, I think the media is blowing the situation out of proportion to promote "green" products which cost more, and I'm not gonna be a part of it. I'd rather focus on completely clear man-made problems like nuclear proliferation before I worry about the Earth telling us to fuck off. Razz
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asianboy10123 wrote:
The timeframe is just misunderstood. concenquences will come from it just pretty far from now. Most of the people that worry about too much are caused by the media. I do agree on one part though. There are WAYY to many myths and strage worrys about global warming.

That basically means that it's dramatized.
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asianboy10123 wrote:
The timeframe is just misunderstood. concenquences will come from it just pretty far from now. Most of the people that worry about too much are caused by the media. I do agree on one part though. There are WAYY to many myths and strage worrys about global warming.

That's what dramatizing something is... Razz
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actually dramatized means that it is overly exadurated or somewhere along those lines. Its not its just gonna happen later then what most normal people think it will. and plus green products that you say cost more actually end up saving you more money because they last longer. And considering the fact that probably a good 60-80% of all companies hate making green products because it raises production costs. And if corporations support global warming theories why dont they all sign the kyoto accord instead of trying to find more ways to avoid it?

Global warming is clearly man made though. Before it wasnt because we had probably triple or quadruple the amount of volcanoes spewing carbon. But nowadays there are alot less.
Also nuclear proliferation is an impossibility. If you dont have nukes or the money to fight against nukes then big contries dont even listen to anything you have to say.
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asianboy10123 wrote:
actually dramatized means that it is overly exadurated or somewhere along those lines. Its not its just gonna happen later then what most normal people think it will. and plus green products that you say cost more actually end up saving you more money because they last longer. And considering the fact that probably a good 60-80% of all companies hate making green products because it raises production costs. And if corporations support global warming theories why dont they all sign the kyoto accord instead of trying to find more ways to avoid it?

Global warming is clearly man made though. Before it wasnt because we had probably triple or quadruple the amount of volcanoes spewing carbon. But nowadays there are alot less.
Also nuclear proliferation is an impossibility. If you dont have nukes or the money to fight against nukes then big contries dont even listen to anything you have to say.

Dramatized can also mean that it's under false urgency. I don't understand what you just said about nuclear proliferation..

Nuclear proliferation is when one nation after another comes into possession of, or into the right to determine the use of, nuclear weapons; each nation becomes potentially able to launch a nuclear attack upon another nation. It's basically the spread of nuclear weapons, but you just said "nuclear proliferation is an impossibility". I'm guessing there was a misunderstanding just now.. lol
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not really nuclear proliferation is also keeping other nations from getting nuclear weapons. Its impossible to do that because theres no incentive not to get them. And unless you posses nuclear weapons or something of equal worth contries dont respect you as much.
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not really nuclear proliferation is also keeping other nations from getting nuclear weapons. Its impossible to do that because theres no incentive not to get them. And unless you posses nuclear weapons or something of equal worth contries dont respect you as much.

I disagree. Proliferation is the spread of nuclear weapons. Stopping the spread of nukes to other countries is not nuclear proliferation. See the 'Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty'.

Oh and another thing, if you control a lot of trade and in some cases have oil (Iraq and Iran don't count, they are/were run by nutcases), countries still respect you. (If China didn't have nukes, no one would fuck with it because it is a HUGE export country)
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hmmm it appears ur right. ok then Stoping proliferation is impossible then.
anyway its not true about the respect thing. Before china aquired their nuclear weapons they were not in the big 5. So their vote didnt really matter as much. And the US had the ability to sielence china about taiwan. Nowadays the US sends people to taiwan anually to get them to shut up about their independance. And anyway the huge export and economy is of equal value to nukes because u can also crush countries quickly economically. And oil is almost up to that level but not quite. Like Saudi Arabia. That country kinda you know sucks. They keep braging about oil but their status isnt really changing.
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hmmm it appears ur right. ok then Stoping proliferation is impossible then.
anyway its not true about the respect thing. Before china aquired their nuclear weapons they were not in the big 5. So their vote didnt really matter as much. And the US had the ability to sielence china about taiwan. Nowadays the US sends people to taiwan anually to get them to shut up about their independance. And anyway the huge export and economy is of equal value to nukes because u can also crush countries quickly economically. And oil is almost up to that level but not quite. Like Saudi Arabia. That country kinda you know sucks. They keep braging about oil but their status isnt really changing.

Oh, okay. Good point.
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